A (purportedly) super sense-perceptual or sub sense-perceptual experience granting acquaintance of realities or states of affairs that are of a kind not accessible by way of sense perception, somatosensory modalities, or standard introspection.

Pitchfork: You have really big ears and thoroughly non-Catholic taste, and this shows in the artists you recommend, though sometimes you get grief for championing your friends.

DB: Vashti [Bunyan], on a very personal level. Her music saved my life in many ways. Her music provided very concrete things I didn't have that time. I'd go so far as to say it replaced a bed and food pretty much. Water and Vashti got me through some pretty tough times. So, I owe that to her because her music was so nourishing.

Pitchfork: I like that, despite your reservations, you're not afraid to engage with the mystical or spiritual side of things but you never do it in a super serious kind of way.

DB: I grew up around so much new agey stuff. Part of me takes it lightly because I'm so used to it. It was my parents. It wasn't some path I discovered and want to share with people. It's just been a very natural part of my life. There's humor to it and there's seriousness to it, too. It's all about sensitivity. If you have sensitivity then mysticism will be part of your life. It's a very beautiful thing and a very real thing but it's not something to not take seriously and it's not something to take seriously. It's something to engage in the moment. It's all kinds of variables. There's always so many colors, you know?