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Research In Motion CEO provides business update >>Research In Motion
2 hours ago by guardiantech
Thorsten Heins:
Your submissions please for who is going to buy which bits of RIM, and by when.
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In terms of challenges, as I mentioned on the March financial results conference call, RIM is going through a significant transformation as we move towards the BlackBerry 10 launch, and our financial performance will continue to be challenging for the next few quarters. The on-going competitive environment is impacting our business in the form of lower volumes and highly competitive pricing dynamics in the marketplace, and we expect our Q1 results to reflect this, and likely result in an operating loss for the quarter.
Your submissions please for who is going to buy which bits of RIM, and by when.
2 hours ago by guardiantech
Rewind >> Scalado
This does indeed look like the technology that's going to be in the BlackBerry 10 systems. (Thanks @GCday for the link.)
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27 days ago by guardiantech
When taking a photo of several people at once, it's almost impossible to get that one 'perfect shot' where everyone is smiling and looking at the camera – and where no one is blinking!</p><p>
Not anymore.</p><p>
It's now actually possible to take the best facial expressions from a sequence of photos, and then combine them into one single photo. The result? It's now quick and easy to create the perfect group shot.
This does indeed look like the technology that's going to be in the BlackBerry 10 systems. (Thanks @GCday for the link.)
27 days ago by guardiantech
RIM's failed Hail Mary >> Dustin Curtis
Only one word for that: ouch.
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28 days ago by guardiantech
You'd think they would have spent the time to make sure they got it right, and that they would have focused on radically improving the user interface and experience to bring BlackBerry up to par with Android, iOS, and Windows Phone 7. It is almost impossible to comprehend, but they didn't do that.</p><p>
Instead, they released something uninspired, uninteresting, and unfinished. That no one at RIM had the guts and authority to recognize the seriousness of their situation–the company is literally dying!–and say, “Hey, maybe we should wait until BlackBerry 10 is awesome before we release it,” is an ultimate demonstration of how RIM's culture will lead to its now inevitable demise. This is what happens when the sales people are in charge.
Only one word for that: ouch.
28 days ago by guardiantech
RIM turnaround could take up to 5 years, Watsa says >> Reuters
Duly noted. (Thanks Graeme Dunn for the link.)
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4 weeks ago by guardiantech
Research in Motion Ltd may take four to five years to regain its stride after its recent stumbles, but the BlackBerry maker's stock is a good buy at current levels, value investor Prem Watsa said on Thursday.</p><p>
"Is it going to turn around in three months, six months, nine months? No," said Watsa, chief executive of insurer Fairfax Financial Holdings Ltd. "But if you're looking four, five years ... We make investments over four or five years."
Duly noted. (Thanks Graeme Dunn for the link.)
4 weeks ago by guardiantech
Unforgiven: The consequences of profit failure in mobile phones >> asymco
5 weeks ago by guardiantech
Horace Dediu:
The mobile phone business is brutal.
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Since my post in June last year Sony Ericsson and Motorola were acquired making the total victims list total 14 companies with Nokia, LG and RIM having joined the “endangered species list”. If the pattern repeats, then RIM and Nokia are in early phases of what promises to be an extended period of pain followed by an exit.</p><p>
What the analysis does not answer is when a vendor loses its independence after beginning loss making. Motorola took 20 quarters; Sony Ericsson 14, Ericsson 8 and Siemens only 7. We cannot tell if or when LG which is still operating after 8 and Nokia, which is now in its fourth and RIM in its second quarter post-loss will lose independence.
The mobile phone business is brutal.
5 weeks ago by guardiantech
RIM said to discuss hiring bank to weigh strategy options >> Bloomberg
In the wings, the Fat Lady is doing her vocal warmups.
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6 weeks ago by guardiantech
Research In Motion Ltd. (RIM), the troubled maker of the BlackBerry smartphone, is in talks to hire a financial adviser that can help it weigh strategic options, according to three people with knowledge of the matter.</p><p>
RIM is considering hiring one Canadian bank and one global bank, said one of the people, who asked to remain anonymous because the deliberations are private.
In the wings, the Fat Lady is doing her vocal warmups.
6 weeks ago by guardiantech
RIM announces fourth-quarter results: $125m loss >> RIM
8 weeks ago by guardiantech
Thorsten Heins:
RIM is bleeding very, very badly: a loss of $125m, writedowns on BB7 inventory, a huge drop in revenues, and the slowest growth in subscribers as a percentage of handsets sold ever. If BB10 can staunch the wound, that would go some way to solving its proximate problem. But Heins has to do something Jobs-like now.
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I’m very excited about the prospects for the BlackBerry 10 platform, which is on track for the latter part of calendar 2012. Notwithstanding these strengths and opportunities, the business challenges we face over the next several quarters are significant and I am taking the necessary steps to address them.
RIM is bleeding very, very badly: a loss of $125m, writedowns on BB7 inventory, a huge drop in revenues, and the slowest growth in subscribers as a percentage of handsets sold ever. If BB10 can staunch the wound, that would go some way to solving its proximate problem. But Heins has to do something Jobs-like now.
8 weeks ago by guardiantech
BlackBerry loses top spot to Apple at home: corporate Canada >> Bloomberg
Canada generates about 7% of RIM's revenues, but fell about 23% from a year earlier. RIM's next quarterly results will be announced on 29 March. (Data about other platforms isn't given in the story.)
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9 weeks ago by guardiantech
Canada’s love affair with the BlackBerry is waning.
Research In Motion has been ousted from the top spot for smartphone shipments in its home market for the first time, trailing Apple Inc.’s iPhone.
RIM, based in Waterloo, Ontario, shipped 2.08m BlackBerrys last year in Canada, compared with 2.85m units for Apple, data compiled by IDC and Bloomberg show. In 2010, the BlackBerry topped the iPhone by half a million, and in 2008, the year after the iPhone’s debut, RIM outsold Apple by almost five to one.
Canada generates about 7% of RIM's revenues, but fell about 23% from a year earlier. RIM's next quarterly results will be announced on 29 March. (Data about other platforms isn't given in the story.)
9 weeks ago by guardiantech
More feds ditch BlackBerrys >> Politico.com
february 2012 by guardiantech
Not good for RIM:
Android phones look to be getting a look-in too. As do iPads. Basically, ABR - anything but RIM.
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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is planning to start the process of ditching Research in Motion’s signature BlackBerry wireless phone largely in favor of the iPhone, the agency’s top tech official told POLITICO.
“We’re going to delete the BlackBerry from the mix,” Rick Holgate, ATF’s chief information officer, said in an interview.
That move — which includes swapping out about 3,800 BlackBerrys — should be complete in “probably no more than a year,” he said. More than 60% of the replacement devices are initially slated to be iPhones.
Android phones look to be getting a look-in too. As do iPads. Basically, ABR - anything but RIM.
february 2012 by guardiantech
PlayBooks lapped up from RIM by distributors >> Channel Register
february 2012 by guardiantech
Good news, everyone!
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RIM UK PlayBook shipments took off in Q4 as price cuts finally convinced distributors to increase their orders.
According to data from Context, the number of RIM fondleslabs sold to UK wholesalers during Q4 was up nearly three fold on a sequential basis to 32,000 units, taking market share to 3.4 per cent.
Oh.
february 2012 by guardiantech
July 2007: CEO Balsillie shrugs off 'BlackBerry killer' >> thestar.com
february 2012 by guardiantech
Hello, hindsight:
He was also critical of Apple's selling the phone through its own stores. Wonder if we'll see RIM setting up stores. (Thanks @lessien on Twitter for the link.)
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…some are arguing that Apple has single-handedly redefined the concept of a cellphone with the iPhone's giant touch-screen interface, making devices such as the BlackBerry Pearl, launched just last September, appear relatively clunky and outdated."Nobody does industrial design as well as Apple does it today," says Carmi Levy, senior vice-president of strategic consulting for AR Communications Inc. "But you can bet your next mortgage payment that RIM's engineers are already working on the next design that mimics and probably leapfrogs the iPhone. That's the name of the game."
[Co-CEO Jim] Balsillie IS the first to admit some will find the iPhone's look appealing, but he says he's doubtful the device will have much of an impact on RIM's overall sales. For one thing, he says, the iPhone will hold little appeal for RIM's core business market and its need for secure information technology systems, which RIM has been providing for years with its corporate BlackBerry email servers.
He was also critical of Apple's selling the phone through its own stores. Wonder if we'll see RIM setting up stores. (Thanks @lessien on Twitter for the link.)
february 2012 by guardiantech
US's NOAA to drop BlackBerry for iPhone >> NYTimes.com
february 2012 by guardiantech
This is very bad for RIM:
If many more decide that BES is too expensive (as happened here), that becomes a serious risk for RIM's future business. Also: the NOAA is shifting to Google Apps; it tried Android but decided the Apple products were a better fit.
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Joining the large crop of businesses and organizations dropping the BlackBerry, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration plans to provide employees with Apple’s iPhones and iPads instead.
The government agency, based in Washington, cited the steep cost of Research in Motion’s software, which is used to secure and manage BlackBerry devices, as the primary reason for the switch, which was first reported Thursday by The Loop. The agency has distributed about 3,000 BlackBerry devices among 20,000 workers, and plans to move to the Apple devices beginning in May.
If many more decide that BES is too expensive (as happened here), that becomes a serious risk for RIM's future business. Also: the NOAA is shifting to Google Apps; it tried Android but decided the Apple products were a better fit.
february 2012 by guardiantech
We’re very sorry, BlackBerry users >> Kayak blog
february 2012 by guardiantech
From the travel app people:
Does the platform erosion lead or follow market share erosion?
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It is with a heavy heart (and thumbs) that we must announce this: KAYAK Mobile is dropping active support and maintenance for our BlackBerry application. We are sincerely sorry to BlackBerry users, but we have regrettably come to this practical decision.
When we started KAYAK in 2004, we issued BlackBerries to the entire engineering team so we could communicate instantly 24/7. Today we've all switched, and it seems our users are doing the same. Our audience of BlackBerry users has been declining precipitously, and we can't justify the cost any longer.
RIM was a smartphone pioneer and we thank them for what they've done, and wish them renewed success. BlackBerry was (and is) an amazing messaging platform. But it's not working out to be a great channel for consumer mobile applications, which is what leads us to this sad post.
Does the platform erosion lead or follow market share erosion?
february 2012 by guardiantech
Halliburton to ditch BlackBerrys in corporate transition to Apple's iOS platform >> Apple Insider
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february 2012 by guardiantech
"Over the next year, we will begin expanding the use of our mobile technology by transitioning from the BlackBerry (RIM) platform that we currently use to smartphone technology via the iPhone," the Houston, Texas-based firm told employees in an internal newsletter this month.
february 2012 by guardiantech
Samsung says not interested in buying RIM | Reuters
january 2012 by guardiantech
And Boy Genius Report goes back to the drawing board.
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january 2012 by guardiantech
CES 2012: RIM Shows Off New BlackBerry Phone And Tablet OS | WebProNews
january 2012 by guardiantech
BlackBerry OS 7.1, which begins rolling out to BlackBerry smartphones today, includes a variety of new features. BlackBerry Tag allows users with NFC-enabled phones to exchange information by bumping their phones together. Mobile hotspot functionality has been added as well, along with enhanced search capability.
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january 2012 by guardiantech
Microsoft, Nokia Flirted With RIM >> WSJ.com
december 2011 by guardiantech
So, we're a few steps away from a bidding war for RIM?
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december 2011 by guardiantech
Exclusive: Amazon weighed buying RIM but interest cooled >> Reuters
december 2011 by guardiantech
"Amazon hired an investment bank this summer to review a potential merger with RIM, but it did not make a formal offer, said one of the sources. It is not clear whether informal discussions between Amazon and RIM ever led to specific price talk, or who else had approached RIM about a takeover."
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december 2011 by guardiantech
2008: BlackBerry’s Quest: Fend Off the iPhone >> New York Times
december 2011 by guardiantech
From April 2008: "Since the iPhone went on sale last summer, amid long lines of shoppers and media adulation, the contours of the smartphone market have begun to shift rapidly toward consumers. An industry once characterized by brain-numbing acronyms and droning discussions about enterprise security is now defined by buzz around handset design, video games and mobile social networks.
"That means R.I.M., which has historically viewed big corporations and wireless carriers as its bedrock customers, needs to alter its DNA in a hurry."
It didn't. Fascinating reading, in retrospect: "But there are also signs that R.I.M. faces steeper challenges. At the end of last year, BlackBerry had a 40 percent share of the United States smartphone market, down from 45 percent at the end of 2006, thanks largely to the 17.4 percent share the iPhone grabbed in its first six months.
"In March, [Steve] Jobs announced that Apple would take the rare step of licensing Microsoft’s corporate e-mail technology, to allow iPhones to connect directly to business computers — a dagger aimed at the heart of R.I.M.’s strength in the corporate market."
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"That means R.I.M., which has historically viewed big corporations and wireless carriers as its bedrock customers, needs to alter its DNA in a hurry."
It didn't. Fascinating reading, in retrospect: "But there are also signs that R.I.M. faces steeper challenges. At the end of last year, BlackBerry had a 40 percent share of the United States smartphone market, down from 45 percent at the end of 2006, thanks largely to the 17.4 percent share the iPhone grabbed in its first six months.
"In March, [Steve] Jobs announced that Apple would take the rare step of licensing Microsoft’s corporate e-mail technology, to allow iPhones to connect directly to business computers — a dagger aimed at the heart of R.I.M.’s strength in the corporate market."
december 2011 by guardiantech
Blackberry ($RIMM) is worth less than the Apple App Store. Just the App Store. Not iPhone. Not iPad. Not Mac. Not iTunes. >> brian s hall
december 2011 by guardiantech
"Per analysis from Trefis, iTunes and App Store each contribute approximately 2% to Apple's market cap. For those doing the math at home, that means App Store contributes $7.08 billion to Apple's market cap."
RIM's current value? $7.04bn. Has anyone started a Tumblr for things RIM is worth less than?
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RIM's current value? $7.04bn. Has anyone started a Tumblr for things RIM is worth less than?
december 2011 by guardiantech
$1.7 million in BlackBerry PlayBooks stolen from an Indiana truck stop | The Verge
december 2011 by guardiantech
"Last Thursday, a truck carrying 22 pallets of BlackBerry PlayBooks (estimated to have 5,000 units) was stolen from an Indiana truck stop while the driver was busy eating and taking a shower. With no tracking device on the vehicle, there's little word on the thieves or where they're headed, although a local police spokesman has named Miami as a popular destination for stolen goods."
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december 2011 by guardiantech
Aviva rolls out BlackBerry PlayBook to staff >> silicon.com
december 2011 by guardiantech
"Aviva commercial property surveyors who carry out risk assessments on UK premises are being issued with PlayBooks to record commercial risk. The devices are currently being used by 10 commercial property surveyors and will be issued to 120 staff over a six-month period from early 2012."
Thanks to @jforbes for the link. Hope they're buying them at the new, lower price.
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Thanks to @jforbes for the link. Hope they're buying them at the new, lower price.
december 2011 by guardiantech
Indonesian government threatens to ban BlackBerry services if it can't spy on users >> Engadget
december 2011 by guardiantech
We feel that we've heard this story before in a slightly different context. What if the Egyptian or Syrian government were to demand it? Would that be different?
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december 2011 by guardiantech
BBX-powered BlackBerry London phone purportedly pictured >> BGR.com
november 2011 by guardiantech
To us, this looks like a Photoshop job. The lack of shadow around the sides; the odd shape of the top and bottom compared to the side; the lack of apparent depth. Nice that RIM has folk prepared to Photoshop concept phones for it, though.
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november 2011 by guardiantech
RIM: 2012 BlackBerry phones will be charming, whimsical and fun >> Pocket-lint
november 2011 by guardiantech
"Research In Motion’s senior vice president of Industrial Design, Todd Wood, has told Pocket-lint that the next range of BlackBerry smartphones will be officially summed up using the words “charming, whimsical and fun”."
To be honest 'whimsical' is not a word we've ever wanted to have attached to a mobile phone. "Reliable, consistent, long-lasting" - those are good words.
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To be honest 'whimsical' is not a word we've ever wanted to have attached to a mobile phone. "Reliable, consistent, long-lasting" - those are good words.
november 2011 by guardiantech
RIM says investigating delays, but insists no widespread outage >> AllThingsD
november 2011 by guardiantech
“There is no system-wide outage,” RIM said in a statement to AllThingsD. “However we are investigating reports that some users in (Europe, the Middle East, India and Africa) have experienced delays.”
Pesky Europeans.
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Pesky Europeans.
november 2011 by guardiantech
Apple loses to RIM in Indian smartphone market >> Bloomberg
october 2011 by guardiantech
Sells fewer there than to Norway: "Sales for the world’s biggest company by market value are hindered because Indian wireless carriers, which started third- generation networks this year, have yet to offer nationwide services fast enough to take advantage of iPhone features, said Gus Papageorgiou, an analyst at Scotia Capital Inc. in Toronto."
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october 2011 by guardiantech
Thoughts from RIM's Q2 financial results conference call >> CrackBerry.com
september 2011 by guardiantech
A former analyst explains why Wall Street has a downer on RIM. Though it basically comes down to: keep overpromising and underdelivering.
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RIM and the lamentation of the analyst >> Asymco
september 2011 by guardiantech
"This is the lament of the analyst: you can clearly and accurately state what will happen but when remains a mystery. <em>It’s the elasticity between obvious causes and their effects that makes this an inexact science or not a science at all.</em> In retrospect, you can say that Nokia’s pivot was triggered by its public execution of Symbian, but that assumes that it was preventable–which we know is not the case. But what caused RIM’s change of growth, exactly? Why did it happen this past spring? Why didn’t the company volumes begin to decline as iPhone and Android boomed in 2009 or 2010?"<br />
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Plus, as Dediu points out, Rim's financial information is becoming more and more difficult to analyse as major information (precise number of subscribers, ASPs) are omitted.
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Plus, as Dediu points out, Rim's financial information is becoming more and more difficult to analyse as major information (precise number of subscribers, ASPs) are omitted.
september 2011 by guardiantech
RIM Ships 200,000 PlayBooks Last Quarter >> Business Insider
september 2011 by guardiantech
"The PlayBook numbers are really, really bad. Just 200,000 shipped versus estimates of 600,000 to 700,000."<br />
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september 2011 by guardiantech
Editorial: How RIM can improve BlackBerry right now >> This is my next...
september 2011 by guardiantech
"As a primary device, I was shocked to find that the 9900 was almost workable."<br />
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Grammatical quibbles aside (obviously he's the primary device, he's using it), this is a fairly reasonable list of the problems Rim faces. However, it's not very likely to fix them any time soon.
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Grammatical quibbles aside (obviously he's the primary device, he's using it), this is a fairly reasonable list of the problems Rim faces. However, it's not very likely to fix them any time soon.
september 2011 by guardiantech
Canaccord slashes RIM PlayBook sales estimates >> Financial Post
september 2011 by guardiantech
"When leading electronics retailers dramatically cut the price of a tablet just to get it off the shelves, conventional wisdom and recent history suggests that device is likely failing to post a challenge to Apple Inc.’s iPad.<br />
"Canaccord Genuity financial analysts Michael Walkley and Matthew Ramsay raised those very fears about Research In Motion Ltd.’s BlackBerry PlayBook over Labour Day weekend, after Best Buy discounted the RIM tablet by $50 to $150, depending on the model."<br />
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The analysts have cut their estimates for 2011 Playbook sales from 2.2m to 1.5m, and for 2012 from 3m to 2.5m. Anyone know of any pre-PlayBook launch forecasts from RIM itself?
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"Canaccord Genuity financial analysts Michael Walkley and Matthew Ramsay raised those very fears about Research In Motion Ltd.’s BlackBerry PlayBook over Labour Day weekend, after Best Buy discounted the RIM tablet by $50 to $150, depending on the model."<br />
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The analysts have cut their estimates for 2011 Playbook sales from 2.2m to 1.5m, and for 2012 from 3m to 2.5m. Anyone know of any pre-PlayBook launch forecasts from RIM itself?
september 2011 by guardiantech
RIM signs license agreement covering Dolby Audio technologies; Dolby agrees to withdraw patent infringement actions against RIM >> BusinessWire
september 2011 by guardiantech
"Dolby Laboratories (NYSE: DLB) said today that Research in Motion ("RIM" ) agreed to enter into a license agreement for its use of Dolby's advanced audio technologies that were the subject of two lawsuits recently filed by Dolby against RIM. As a result, those cases were dismissed today based on agreement between the parties."<br />
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RIM has Dolby sound? Apparently, yes.
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september 2011 by guardiantech
RIM Finds Indonesia Fertile Ground for BlackBerry Growth >> WSJ.com
september 2011 by guardiantech
"Booming demand for BlackBerrys here and elsewhere in the developing world is lifting hopes that the smartphone's embattled manufacturer might still have the means to grow even as its market share plummets in the U.S. and other wealthy countries."<br />
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But no mention of recent scrape with Indonesian government over access to emails etc.
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But no mention of recent scrape with Indonesian government over access to emails etc.
september 2011 by guardiantech
Enterprise likes RIM's new BlackBerrys; consumers, not so much >> AllThingsD
september 2011 by guardiantech
"Checks conducted by Canaccord analyst T. Michael Walkley indicate strong initial upgrade sales for RIM’s new BlackBerry OS 7 smartphones, particularly the Bold 9900 at Verizon. But demand for it appears to be concentrated among business users.<br />
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“'With the Bold 9900 the first compelling new BlackBerry in nearly two years for Verizon customers, we were encouraged that our checks indicated Verizon’s large BlackBerry enterprise base appears to have strong demand for the first BlackBerry OS 7 device on Verizon’s network,' Walkley writes. <br />
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Yay BlackBerry!<br />
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“'However, our more consumer-centric retail store checks indicated smartphone consumers continue to overwhelmingly choose the iPhone 4 or new Android smartphones versus the $250 Bold 9900.'”<br />
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Oh BlackBerry. Remember, there are more consumers than businesses, and replacement markets aren't growth.
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“'With the Bold 9900 the first compelling new BlackBerry in nearly two years for Verizon customers, we were encouraged that our checks indicated Verizon’s large BlackBerry enterprise base appears to have strong demand for the first BlackBerry OS 7 device on Verizon’s network,' Walkley writes. <br />
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Yay BlackBerry!<br />
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“'However, our more consumer-centric retail store checks indicated smartphone consumers continue to overwhelmingly choose the iPhone 4 or new Android smartphones versus the $250 Bold 9900.'”<br />
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Oh BlackBerry. Remember, there are more consumers than businesses, and replacement markets aren't growth.
september 2011 by guardiantech
Research in Motion's Best BlackBerry yet, the Bold 9900, is not enough >> NYTimes.com
august 2011 by guardiantech
From the conclusion: " the stellar 9900 shows that when its back is against the wall, RIM can produce winners. This phone is the best BlackBerry RIM has ever produced, but against the gigantic technological and marketing forces of iPhone and Android, it’s a whisper in the wind. Let’s hope that there are enough BlackBerry fans left to support their favorite phone and that the company completes its reboot in time to prevent the 2013 headline, 'RIM R.I.P.'"
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august 2011 by guardiantech
RIM buys JayCut to counter iPad's iMovie through PlayBooks | Electronista
july 2011 by guardiantech
"RIM on Friday said it had bought JayCut in what's a likely attempt to counter iMovie on the iPad. The deal gives it access to a mix of video editing and cloud services. The BlackBerry maker made it clear the acquisition was to bolster video editing on the PlayBook as well as future BlackBerry phones.<br />
"Terms of the deal weren't given out but were likely small enough that RIM didn't have to report its conditions."<br />
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Amateur director hour has begun.
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"Terms of the deal weren't given out but were likely small enough that RIM didn't have to report its conditions."<br />
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Amateur director hour has begun.
july 2011 by guardiantech
Analyst suggests RIM to discontinue Wi-Fi BlackBerry PlayBook >> BGR
july 2011 by guardiantech
"In a note to investors Monday afternoon, RBC Capital Markets Managing Director Mike Abramsky reiterated an OTR Global report that Research In Motion is possibly planning to stop production of the BlackBerry PlayBook’s Wi-Fi model. The Wi-Fi version of RIM’s tablet is the only version Research In Motion currently manufacturers. The reasons for the discontinuation of the Wi-Fi edition, Abramsky states, could be related to a pullback in production, a move that would align channel inventory with slower than expected sell-through, in addition to RIM focusing on upcoming cellularly-connected PlayBook versions."<br />
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*Possibly* considering. But some commenters on the post point out that you can get a used PlayBook for quite a lot less than the retail price. <br />
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Note: RIM has denied this completely, <a href="http://twitter.com/BlackBerry/status/93060768974643200">tweeting</a>: "Pure fiction. No plan to discontinue. In fact, WiFi PlayBook is launching in new countries practically every week."
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*Possibly* considering. But some commenters on the post point out that you can get a used PlayBook for quite a lot less than the retail price. <br />
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Note: RIM has denied this completely, <a href="http://twitter.com/BlackBerry/status/93060768974643200">tweeting</a>: "Pure fiction. No plan to discontinue. In fact, WiFi PlayBook is launching in new countries practically every week."
july 2011 by guardiantech
Research In Motion: Needham wonders If It could disappear >> Forbes
july 2011 by guardiantech
Analyst Charles Wolf at Needham has an existential concern: "“To say RIM’s first quarter results and second quarter guidance were ugly is an understatement,” he writes. “Notwithstanding management’s enthusiastic endorsement of BlackBerry OS 7 devices that should arrive by September, it’s unlikely they will have any material impact on RIM’s downward trajectory.” He adds that it is an “open question” is adopting QNX as the OS for future devices can save the day, noting that it “does not address RIM’s inability to design a user interface int he class of iPhone and Android.”<br />
"RIM isn’t dead, but it looks more and more like the walking dead – a zombie company. Writes Wolf: 'Unless the company cracks the code in the consumer market, RIM’s likely to become a shadow of its former self.'"<br />
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But surely RIM has got a good handle on consumers - it's just not able to charge premium prices?
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"RIM isn’t dead, but it looks more and more like the walking dead – a zombie company. Writes Wolf: 'Unless the company cracks the code in the consumer market, RIM’s likely to become a shadow of its former self.'"<br />
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But surely RIM has got a good handle on consumers - it's just not able to charge premium prices?
july 2011 by guardiantech
Inside RIM: An exclusive look at the rise and fall of the company that made smartphones smart >> BGR.com
july 2011 by guardiantech
Intriguing (if not particularly well-written; it reads like a lightly edited email dump) romp through the woes besetting RIM internally. Mike Lazaridis is clearly very smart, but not good at perceiving consumer needs.
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july 2011 by guardiantech
Always sell BlackBerry with a data plan! >> Nokia Siemens Networks blog
july 2011 by guardiantech
"..sometimes you need to turn to your Marketing department to lower signalling – or at least that’s what one major operator in Europe learned recently.<br />
"The operator was puzzled when they started seeing a huge increase in signalling traffic, at a much faster growth rate than had been observed previously. The growth was so rapid that it very quickly threatened network stability, so something had to be done fast. Using Nokia Siemens Networks’ Network and Service Assurance solution (which is how we know about this), the operator found that it was signalling traffic from BlackBerries that was responsible for the spike. Drilling down further, they found that it wasn’t just BlackBerries – it was one particular model of BlackBerry. And the data spike had started when the operator had begun offering that particular BlackBerry model as part of a recent special promotion – without a data plan."
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"The operator was puzzled when they started seeing a huge increase in signalling traffic, at a much faster growth rate than had been observed previously. The growth was so rapid that it very quickly threatened network stability, so something had to be done fast. Using Nokia Siemens Networks’ Network and Service Assurance solution (which is how we know about this), the operator found that it was signalling traffic from BlackBerries that was responsible for the spike. Drilling down further, they found that it wasn’t just BlackBerries – it was one particular model of BlackBerry. And the data spike had started when the operator had begun offering that particular BlackBerry model as part of a recent special promotion – without a data plan."
july 2011 by guardiantech
From 2008: BlackBerry vs. iPhone, or why RIM might be seriously screwed >> Daring Fireball
july 2011 by guardiantech
What's interesting about this - from May 2008, when RIM was on the up - is how Mike Lazaridis denies the usefulness of a touchscreen phone <em>even while RIM whad nearly completed the touchscreen Storm</em> - which it built at the urging of Vodafone. Fascinating analysis, in retrospect.
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july 2011 by guardiantech
Open letter to BlackBerry bosses: Senior RIM exec tells all as company crumbles around him >> BGR
june 2011 by guardiantech
Usually a site whose exclusives are better taken with tongs (in our experience), but this chimes with other things we've been hearing about RIM. A dramatic letter, on a par with the Yahoo "Peanut Butter" memo.
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june 2011 by guardiantech
Capital.bg : Nobody wants to buy RIM >> Asymco
june 2011 by guardiantech
"RIM is an engineering led company. Many successful companies rightly develop their engineering skills first because that is what allows them to create new products more quickly. This is true of Nokia and also of Apple and Microsoft in their early years. What is difficult is to allow marketing people to define products after that early phase. This is partly due to the fact that there is less respect for “Marketing” among engineers. Many see it as a “soft” discipline where there is little rigor. But this is not an accurate or fair picture. Great marketing determines what products should be built not just how they should be sold. Engineering can discover new products based on new technology becoming available, but Marketing can discover new products based on unmet user needs. Both need each other."
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june 2011 by guardiantech
RIM lowers internal 2Q11 sales target for PlayBook >> Digitimes
june 2011 by guardiantech
"RIM, viewing that only about 500,000 PlayBooks, its first tablet PC, were sold globally from its launch in mid-April to early June, has downward adjusted its internal sales target for the second quarter, from 2.4 million units originally to 800,000-900,000 units, according to sources from Taiwan-based supply chain makers.<br />
"The sources pointed out that the PlayBook achieved strong sales of 40,000-50,000 units on its launch day, but demand from then to mid-April was lower-than-expected. RIM originally set to ship 2.4-2.5 million PlayBooks three months after launch, but since the company was only able to sell about 500,000 units in total by early June, it will be difficult for the company to achieve its original goal, the sources explained."<br />
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"The sources pointed out that the PlayBook achieved strong sales of 40,000-50,000 units on its launch day, but demand from then to mid-April was lower-than-expected. RIM originally set to ship 2.4-2.5 million PlayBooks three months after launch, but since the company was only able to sell about 500,000 units in total by early June, it will be difficult for the company to achieve its original goal, the sources explained."<br />
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june 2011 by guardiantech
Review: RIM PlayBook strikes back at Jobsian internet dream >> The Register
june 2011 by guardiantech
A three-page review that allows for its failings (such as the shortage of apps) but emphasises that at least it lets you watch Flash. Even if you can't get documents to and from it if you don't have a BlackBerry. Which the reviewer didn't.
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june 2011 by guardiantech
April 2011: Adam Hartung: Sell Research In Motion. Now >> Forbes
june 2011 by guardiantech
"The analysts are right. RIM has very limited future growth prospects. Companies are already switching into iPhones, iPads and Androids. Simultaneously, Microsoft will pour billions into helping Nokia push Windows 7 phones and future tablets the next 2 years, and that will be targeted at “enterprise users” which are RIM’s “core.” Microsoft will spend far more resources than RIM could ever match trying to defend its “installed base.” Not to mention the huge flock of app developers Microsoft will attract. RIMM is stuck fighting to keep current users, while the market growth is elsewhere. And emerging competitors are quickly going to hollow out RIM’s market – and its financials."
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june 2011 by guardiantech
What's Next for RIM? >> Michael Mace's Mobile Opportunity
june 2011 by guardiantech
"RIM told us it had shipped 500,000 PlayBooks, but it didn't say how many of them have sold through to customers. It's easy to have one good quarter when you load the channel, but what matters is the sales in the next two quarters.<br />
"We also do not know how many BlackBerry units are sitting around in the channel. But one thing is certain, every time RIM's executives talk about how great their upcoming products will be, it gets a little bit harder to sell through those existing devices.<br />
"Netting it out, the sales pattern in North America looks disturbing. Pricing actions in North America don't appear to be increasing sales, and the PlayBook has not rescued the company. The silver lining for RIM is that its international sales are growing. But North America is half of RIM's revenue, so it has to be fixed if the company is to go back to rapid growth."
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"We also do not know how many BlackBerry units are sitting around in the channel. But one thing is certain, every time RIM's executives talk about how great their upcoming products will be, it gets a little bit harder to sell through those existing devices.<br />
"Netting it out, the sales pattern in North America looks disturbing. Pricing actions in North America don't appear to be increasing sales, and the PlayBook has not rescued the company. The silver lining for RIM is that its international sales are growing. But North America is half of RIM's revenue, so it has to be fixed if the company is to go back to rapid growth."
june 2011 by guardiantech
Apple stock v Nokia and RIM >> Yahoo! Finance
june 2011 by guardiantech
What's interesting is how the Apple stock jumps with the iPad in January 2010, and the others fall; RIM's then rises from September as expectations for the PlayBook grow - then falls off from March as expectations dim.
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june 2011 by guardiantech
O2 won't touch BlackBerry fondleslab for now >> The Register
june 2011 by guardiantech
'Fondleslab' being El Reg talk for 'tablet'.
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june 2011 by guardiantech
Research In Motion Limited stock >> Google Finance
june 2011 by guardiantech
Heavy selling of RIM's stock (down 15%) after its results indicate a slowdown (despite those 500,000 PlayBooks shipped - note, not necessarily sold) and no new smartphones until the "end of August". Plus job cuts. Still, it's cash-positive.
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june 2011 by guardiantech
Video: Apple iPad 2 vs. RIM BlackBerry PlayBook comparison >> MobileBurn
june 2011 by guardiantech
To see the browser speed comparison, scroll forward to 3:30. Hard to see how the PlayBook can be described as the "fastest tablet ever" based on this. (Thanks @carniphage for the link.)
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june 2011 by guardiantech
How will mobile carriers react to iMessage? >> Quora
june 2011 by guardiantech
Lots of interesting comments; takeaway: "More concisely: this is a pricing arbitrage hack, not a change in the economics of the network, and so, after a brief period, any price advantage will be squeezed out of existence by adjusted tariffs."
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june 2011 by guardiantech
Good Job, RIM. You’ve Lost the Consumer Market >> AllThingsD
may 2011 by guardiantech
"Wunderlich Securities analyst Matthew Robison... handed RIM an ugly downgrade this week, slashing his target price on the company’s shares to $46 from $76 and arguing that its long-in-the-tooth handset portfolio has cost it the consumer market.<br />
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"'We no longer anticipate Research in Motion recovering to participate in the mainstream of smartphone industry growth,' he said. 'Our long-term forecast anticipates a role supplying business-oriented devices, both mid-range and high end, as well as cloud-based services via the BlackBerry Network. We expect the consumer mix gained over the past two years to churn off, and that earnings will decline after 2013 and eventually grow again on demand that is largely associated with business users.'"
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"'We no longer anticipate Research in Motion recovering to participate in the mainstream of smartphone industry growth,' he said. 'Our long-term forecast anticipates a role supplying business-oriented devices, both mid-range and high end, as well as cloud-based services via the BlackBerry Network. We expect the consumer mix gained over the past two years to churn off, and that earnings will decline after 2013 and eventually grow again on demand that is largely associated with business users.'"
may 2011 by guardiantech
BlackBerry PlayBook sales miss targets by over 90% at major retailer, 'much higher' return rate than XOOM >> Boy Genius Report
may 2011 by guardiantech
"According to a trusted source from a major big box retailer, sales of RIM’s BlackBerry PlayBook have fallen far short of expectations. In addition, we’re told that the PlayBook is being returned at a higher pace than the Motorola XOOM. According to our source, PlayBook sales at this particular retailer missed internal sales targets by more than 90%."<br />
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Pinch of salt may be required: other sources suggest comparatively good sales. But sales through retailers probably aren't RIM's intention for the PlayBook.
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Pinch of salt may be required: other sources suggest comparatively good sales. But sales through retailers probably aren't RIM's intention for the PlayBook.
may 2011 by guardiantech
BlackBerry PlayBook: 250,000 Sold So Far, Sales "Steady," Says Analyst >> Business Insider
may 2011 by guardiantech
Better than the Motorola Xoom. Why? Because corporations love them. Why? Because they don't store anything - all your data sits on your BlackBerry, but gets presented on a bigger screen. Break the Bluetooth link, and nothing is left on the PlayBook.
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may 2011 by guardiantech
RIM recalls at least 900 faulty BlackBerry PlayBooks - here are the serial numbers >> Engadget
may 2011 by guardiantech
No, really, write your own punchline.
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may 2011 by guardiantech
BlackBerry PlayBook >> Philip Greenspun
may 2011 by guardiantech
Short and painful. Such as: "The touch interface requires training and practice. It is impossible to use the device, for example, simply by touching the backlit portion of the screen and the buttons on the side. The borders of the frame are also touch-sensitive and are required for basic operations, such as getting back to the home screen. The user swipes down, for example, to open a settings menu. If he or she swipes up, what happens? Nothing. The user is supposed to swipe down again to undo he or she just did. How it is intuitive to pull something down and have it move up, I'm not sure."
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may 2011 by guardiantech
Research Immobilized: Time for a Management Shake-Up? >> AllThingsD
may 2011 by guardiantech
"Seems the incremental advances RIM showed off at BlackBerry World this week did almost noting to convince Wall Street that the company can reverse continuing market share losses and reinvigorate its pioneering BlackBerry platform. As Needham analyst Charlie Wolf said in a note to clients Wednesday afternoon, RIM is a one-trick pony whose one trick no longer works.<br />
"'RIM has attempted to keep pace by adding the standard checklist of features to its BlackBerries, as defined by the iPhone,' Wolf said. 'Unfortunately, RIM’s skills as a hardware manufacturer have been more than offset by it ineptness in software development, the focus of competition today. The blame must be laid at the feet of the company’s Co-CEO’s who in their actions and words, appear to have no clue on how to mount a successful response.'"
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"'RIM has attempted to keep pace by adding the standard checklist of features to its BlackBerries, as defined by the iPhone,' Wolf said. 'Unfortunately, RIM’s skills as a hardware manufacturer have been more than offset by it ineptness in software development, the focus of competition today. The blame must be laid at the feet of the company’s Co-CEO’s who in their actions and words, appear to have no clue on how to mount a successful response.'"
may 2011 by guardiantech
Research in Motion BlackBerry World announcements disappoint analysts >> AllThingsD
may 2011 by guardiantech
"'Nothing we saw…gives us incremental conviction that anything changes fundamentally in the balance of power against Android and iOS,' [UBS analyst Philip] Huang said. 'In general, we believe, RIM’s fundamental challenge over the next few quarters will be executing flawlessly on the hardware, platform, and ecosystem shifts occurring.'"<br />
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If RIM misses its profit forecast for the full year, or has to retreat from it (which is very likely), its management won't have any credibility, is the suggestion.
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If RIM misses its profit forecast for the full year, or has to retreat from it (which is very likely), its management won't have any credibility, is the suggestion.
may 2011 by guardiantech
BlackBerry Bold Touch 9900 review >> PC Advisor
may 2011 by guardiantech
"We were lucky enough to get some hands-on time with the new BlackBerry Bold Touch 9900/9930, and though it's difficult to get a truly accurate feel for a smartphone that's tethered to a table and while hundreds of feisty journalists peer over your shoulder, I can say with little hesitation that the Bold Touch 9900 is one very impressive BlackBerry."<br />
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So it's not a "review", it's a "hands-on" to a device tethered to a table. A few minutes spent typing is apparently enough to determine that it's fantastic. 20 minutes is enough to award 9/10.<br />
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Come on, this sort of stuff is nonsense. "First impressions", perhaps.
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So it's not a "review", it's a "hands-on" to a device tethered to a table. A few minutes spent typing is apparently enough to determine that it's fantastic. 20 minutes is enough to award 9/10.<br />
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Come on, this sort of stuff is nonsense. "First impressions", perhaps.
may 2011 by guardiantech
BlackBerry maker RIM’s shares plunge on profit warning >> Financial Times
april 2011 by guardiantech
"RIM’s stock fell $6.17, or 11 per cent, to $50.43 in late trading on Thursday, after earlier closing at $56.59 on Nasdaq.<br />
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"Underscoring its problems, RIM said BlackBerry shipments would be at the lower end of the range of 13.5m-14.5m units it had projected last month and the mix of devices it sells would shift towards cheaper models.<br />
"In a tense call with analysts after the profit warning was announced, Jim Basillie, RIM’s co-chief executive, insisted the company’s current problems were transitory rather than the start of a longer-term decline. “We all wish we could have got the new products out quicker,” he said, “but that just hasn’t happened.”<br />
Not a call they'd have wanted to make just as BlackBerry World - the fiesta for developers and clients - is kicking off in Florida.
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"Underscoring its problems, RIM said BlackBerry shipments would be at the lower end of the range of 13.5m-14.5m units it had projected last month and the mix of devices it sells would shift towards cheaper models.<br />
"In a tense call with analysts after the profit warning was announced, Jim Basillie, RIM’s co-chief executive, insisted the company’s current problems were transitory rather than the start of a longer-term decline. “We all wish we could have got the new products out quicker,” he said, “but that just hasn’t happened.”<br />
Not a call they'd have wanted to make just as BlackBerry World - the fiesta for developers and clients - is kicking off in Florida.
april 2011 by guardiantech
First Day PlayBook sales: is 50,000 too big a number? >> AllThingsD
april 2011 by guardiantech
"Jeffries analyst Peter Misek figures RIM sold about 45,000 PlayBooks Tuesday, with pre-orders accounting for about 25,000 of the total. RBC* analyst Mike Abramsky’s first day sales estimate is in the same range, but a bit higher: 50,000, including pre-sales.<br />
"'The launch appears to have been stronger than the launch of Motorola’s Xoom Tablet, or the Samsung Galaxy Tab, although it’s too early to judge sustainability,' said RBC analyst Mike Abramsky in a note to clients, adding that, as of Wednesday, checks of 180 stores across 10 cities in the United States and Canada show rising PlayBook stockouts.<br />
"But some analysts I’ve spoken with feel those estimates are overly bullish, given the device’s limited availability. 50,000 sold seems an awfully big number when even the Broadway Staples store in downtown New York City had just 10 PlayBooks on hand at launch and a clerk at the Bay Area Best Buy I called described inventory as 'a handful.'"
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"'The launch appears to have been stronger than the launch of Motorola’s Xoom Tablet, or the Samsung Galaxy Tab, although it’s too early to judge sustainability,' said RBC analyst Mike Abramsky in a note to clients, adding that, as of Wednesday, checks of 180 stores across 10 cities in the United States and Canada show rising PlayBook stockouts.<br />
"But some analysts I’ve spoken with feel those estimates are overly bullish, given the device’s limited availability. 50,000 sold seems an awfully big number when even the Broadway Staples store in downtown New York City had just 10 PlayBooks on hand at launch and a clerk at the Bay Area Best Buy I called described inventory as 'a handful.'"
april 2011 by guardiantech
Review: The Blackberry Playbook, Thoughtless and Untested >> The Next Web
april 2011 by guardiantech
"What proved most disappointing for me over the course of evaluating the Playbook is the fact that there were flashes of solid utility buried in here. The QNX OS is different and, at least at first glance, usable. The screen is brilliant and crisp. The tablet itself is a fantastic size and a good weight.<br />
"The touch-sensitive screen borders are far more usable than they sound at first, it’s a very solid feature that I think will be the one lasting contribution that the Playbook offers to the tablet world....<br />
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"The multitasking gesture shrinks your currently running app but, in a random and confusing choice, does not freeze the apps when they are minimized. This means that if you’re in the middle of playing a game, it will continue to run while it’s shrunk down. This behavior is cool looking when it happens to a video app, but it’s confusing and frustrating when you want to switch away from a game and it doesn’t pause itself until you rotate the tile away."<br />
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Ah.
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"The touch-sensitive screen borders are far more usable than they sound at first, it’s a very solid feature that I think will be the one lasting contribution that the Playbook offers to the tablet world....<br />
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"The multitasking gesture shrinks your currently running app but, in a random and confusing choice, does not freeze the apps when they are minimized. This means that if you’re in the middle of playing a game, it will continue to run while it’s shrunk down. This behavior is cool looking when it happens to a video app, but it’s confusing and frustrating when you want to switch away from a game and it doesn’t pause itself until you rotate the tile away."<br />
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Ah.
april 2011 by guardiantech
In Toronto, PlayBook Line Stretches…Wait, Do Two People Count as a Line? | John Paczkowski | Digital Daily | AllThingsD
april 2011 by guardiantech
"'As a RIM investor, I was sort of hoping there would be more customers than reporters here.'<br />
– Henry Kim, one of two customers who lined up outside Toronto’s Future Shop for a BlackBerry PlayBook on Tuesday morning.
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– Henry Kim, one of two customers who lined up outside Toronto’s Future Shop for a BlackBerry PlayBook on Tuesday morning.
april 2011 by guardiantech
RIM makes a play for its future >> The Globe and Mail
april 2011 by guardiantech
"RIM’s obsession with security comes at a cost. It’s one reason developers make fewer apps for its devices, for instance. But it also carries one major advantage. Unlike almost every other tablet developer, RIM has a ready-made audience for the PlayBook: corporate IT departments.<br />
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"The early adopters include Sun Life Financial, which designed one of the very first PlayBook apps, and plans to purchase between 500 and 1,000 RIM tablets.<br />
"'It’s really a powerful unit,' says Thomas Reid, senior vice president of group retirement services at Sun Life. 'I’ll be using it for my e-mail and for doing presentations with clients and things like that. That’s just going to be the standard that we use from a technology perspective … rather than lugging a laptop into the boardroom or wherever we go to do a presentation.'"
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"The early adopters include Sun Life Financial, which designed one of the very first PlayBook apps, and plans to purchase between 500 and 1,000 RIM tablets.<br />
"'It’s really a powerful unit,' says Thomas Reid, senior vice president of group retirement services at Sun Life. 'I’ll be using it for my e-mail and for doing presentations with clients and things like that. That’s just going to be the standard that we use from a technology perspective … rather than lugging a laptop into the boardroom or wherever we go to do a presentation.'"
april 2011 by guardiantech
Sorry Playbook, but it's just not fair... >> Joy of Tech
april 2011 by guardiantech
Oh, dear, Mike Lazaridis's bad mood when interviewed by the BBC isn't going to go away. Possibly ever.
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PlayBook: A Tablet With a Case Of Codependency >> Walt Mossberg
april 2011 by guardiantech
"RIM also plans to release this summer special players or emulators that will allow the PlayBook to run BlackBerry apps and even Android apps. But the latter, while numerous, will be apps designed for the smartphone versions of Android, not the newer tablet version. It’s too early to say how these apps will perform via the special player.<br />
"I got the strong impression RIM is scrambling to get the product to market, and that it will be adding other features already offered on competing devices for months, through software patches.<br />
"For instance, although the PlayBook has very nice front and rear cameras, it comes without video-chatting software. That will be added soon after launch, RIM says. The same goes for a video store, even though the screen renders videos beautifully and a built-in connector outputs gorgeous high-definition video to a TV over a cable."<br />
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On the plus side: he likes the interface, and says it handles Flash very well. Battery life: about six hours.
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"I got the strong impression RIM is scrambling to get the product to market, and that it will be adding other features already offered on competing devices for months, through software patches.<br />
"For instance, although the PlayBook has very nice front and rear cameras, it comes without video-chatting software. That will be added soon after launch, RIM says. The same goes for a video store, even though the screen renders videos beautifully and a built-in connector outputs gorgeous high-definition video to a TV over a cable."<br />
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On the plus side: he likes the interface, and says it handles Flash very well. Battery life: about six hours.
april 2011 by guardiantech
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