I've only just discovered this, another JavaScript server-side framework. It seems to have a reasonably active developer community, but so far I'm finding it pretty limited - everything has to live in one file, even templates, and annoyingly there's no E4X. Still, better than nothing, maybe?

Apparently the state of the art in Django-on-App Engine packages (as opposed to, say, google-app-engine-django or - horrors - following the article on the App Engine site itself).

e-commerce stuff to go with Django. "Satchmo's mission is to use Django to create an open source framework for creating unique and robust online stores."

If you can't get at sproutcore.com (and I've found it down all day), then this lets you get the code from github and shows you what the team have been hacking on.

You wait ages for an Objective-C like platform to come along for building rich internet applications, and then two come along at once. (Page loading very slowly, or not at all, since it's getting a lot of attention.)

You wait ages for an Objective-C like platform to come along for building rich internet applications, and then two come along at once. This one's not released yet, but everyone's seen 280 Slides, which it sits beneath.

Developers of a "platform as a service", which to me is (of course) reminiscent of Zimki (RIP). It's a lot more cluttered as a UI, and I'm finding it hard to find my way through; the use of videos as tutorials hits a pet peeve too.

Interesting. I can see their reasons and I'd love to see the code but this is going to go down badly with the Rails and Perl crowds, I reckon.

Might be nice to compare to Zimki (now I've braved the waters of Gmail and got an invite).

Might be nice to compare with Zimki.

If Apple was serious about JavaScript, wouldn't there be an implementation of Scripting Bridge? (with apologies to Tom, who mentioned the idea on #2lmc) (and I really should check out Drosera)

Continuing the 2lmc incestuous promotion club, here's Tom's update and on DjangoKit; you can now do `python setup.py py2app`, which is nice. Also musing on the "web app on desktop" concept.

Interesting presentation. I didn't realise Catalyst + Data::ObjectDriver gave you DB partitioning; once again Perl is dull but useful.

"Unfortunately [scaling] problems are still rare enough that there isn't a community effort to solve them at the framework level yet." Possibly not, but that doesn't mean there aren't some frameworks that do.